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Ice, snow, and bad news...

Post  liteglow on Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:07 pm

Here is my pond:





My water level meeter shows me 4 days ago there was 2 LEDs with water.
Today there is only 1 LED indicating water.

If the water level is correct, it shows me that the water is going OUT of my water tank under the ground Mad Mad
My pond is only one huge block with ice !
If the pipes was filled with water (I supposed they was) when the frost was here in winter, they can ALL be broken!
If the pipes is frozen, there is no way to fix it again...
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Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...

Post  Things on Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:40 pm

Ouch! Sad

Keep strong, it may just be frozen and not conducting on your meter properly.

Would it be possible to maybe add a small heater to your fountain during winter. and just have a close loop system to move water around?

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Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...

Post  liteglow on Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:40 am

I maybe need to find some solution to this...
An emergency plan maybe Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes haha

No there is not possible to have hot water running 7months in the year.
But I had in my plan to add some anti-freeze into the pond before frost, to bad I did not to that Mad
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Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...

Post  liteglow on Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:35 am

Neutral Neutral Neutral





Not so much hope about the pipes...... No
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Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...

Post  iburton on Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:04 pm

liteglow,

Your story brings tears to my eyes. What would you do differently in your design to ensure that this did not happen to you again. I hope to learn from your misfortune.

Ira.

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Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...

Post  liteglow on Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:25 pm

I dont know what to do actually !
There is only some alternatives I can think of:

1, Make sure there is NO water in the system and seal it (i did, but it was HEAVY rainfall, and water run back into the system)

2, Have anti-freeze in the system. anti-freeze work up to -35 Celsius (-22F)

3, Looped system with warmed up water (That will cost pretty much money)


Another solution is to use a system that dont break during the winter..
I still dont know how bad the situation is.
But I think there must be a miracle if not the pipes is broken, it`s only plastic Rolling Eyes
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Post  Things on Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:25 pm

Or move somewhere that doesn't have winters Wink

I think antifreeze in the system would be best, but I could see it may be a problem when you run your lighting in the fountain. Unless you just emptied it again at the end of winter.

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Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...

Post  iburton on Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:56 am

Did you have a drainage system built into it? In the system I am designing, I do have a drainage line that I had planned on keeping open all winter to keep excess water from accumulating. Do you think that would be sufficient?

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Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...

Post  John on Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:03 pm

Are you just planning on having a ball valve to open for the drainage?
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Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...

Post  iburton on Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:27 pm

Yes, my thought is to have a ball valve for each area where water may accumulate and to open them wide when winter comes. I am a bit worried about water freezing and plugging the valve, but the winters here in Utah are fairly mild with short bouts of bitter cold followed by bearable cold, rinse and repeat.

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Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...

Post  nirvana on Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:58 am

liteglow wrote:Here is my pond:

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My water level meeter shows me 4 days ago there was 2 LEDs with water.
Today there is only 1 LED indicating water.

If the water level is correct, it shows me that the water is going OUT of my water tank under the ground Mad Mad
My pond is only one huge block with ice !
If the pipes was filled with water (I supposed they was) when the frost was here in winter, they can ALL be broken!
If the pipes is frozen, there is no way to fix it again...

wow look it very bad. dirty

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Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...

Post  liteglow on Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:59 am

Yes it was very dirty because there was no grass, only sand.
And the fountain was on the ground level.

Now I have raised my pond 15cm higher from the ground Smile
And I also have pretty green grass in my garden.

But this year the snow comes like a lighting from a blue sky affraid
I have not sealed the pipes, and the pond is open and filled with snow now Razz

And one of my nozzle is under 50cm of snow haha..

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Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...

Post  Hoarp001 on Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:15 am

Maybe use a rubbery flexible hose rather than solid pipe? That pipe is not made for pressure, so will split easily. If you used a rubber hose that is either stretchy so will expand with the ice, or is made to take higher pressures, it should be ok....


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Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...

Post  liteglow on Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:47 am

Hoarp001 wrote:Maybe use a rubbery flexible hose rather than solid pipe? That pipe is not made for pressure, so will split easily. If you used a rubber hose that is either stretchy so will expand with the ice, or is made to take higher pressures, it should be ok....


Thanx for the advice Smile but I think it`s to late now.
I guess all my pipes under the ground is broken.
The solution is to putt the smaller flex tubes inside the pipes, and use them instead.

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