Liteglow`s twin Laminar Jumping Jets :)

Ok, there have been a quiet summer so far.
I have been waiting for parts, stuff, ideas, and some good weather !

I have now in stock:

- 4 Pumps, FLOW4500
- 4 huge Water tank
- 4 Nozzles ready to be mounted
- 14 Degree Celsius and OK sunny weather

Here is picture of the assembling of the water tank:

Finding a perfect dimension:



Cut it the depth I need it to be (50cm):



Welding the bottom, and drilling in a small outlet hole:



Here is the final result, 4 water tank, and 4 nozzle pipes:


I must thank my friend for making this Plastic pieces for me !!
The total cost for this would have been $$$$ ... (and my cost: $0)

Now I have to start with the digging, and assemble the nozzles !
I have almost everything I need.
Brass ring, straws, lexan, and glue..

What I don't have is fiber-optic, and a sponge !!!!

Thanx for reading

WOW, This looks cool! amzing! Ohh man i wish i had a friend can make such nice tubes.
Good luck with the installation.
Mario

Here is how I think it will be connected together :

Hi Filip, I think this is not a good idea. The water in the big tank will evaporate and you will put every second day water in the thank. The best is water at the same level in every tank. 0 Problems like this. Hope you find a easy cool solution.

Hmm.. OK that is not the problem, your idea will work i think. You just take care that enough water is in the lower tank, thats all. Great! Nice!
I Buy today my tubing for the connection between the two tanks. i use 63mm PVC tubing with a tank connector like this .. http://www.koi-breeder.ch/shop/durchfuehrung-pol.jpg and tube like this http://www.koi-breeder.ch/shop/pvcschlauch.jpg
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Magic-nozzle wrote:Hi Filip, I think this is not a good idea. The water in the big tank will evaporate and you will put every second day water in the thank. The best is water at the same level in every tank. 0 Problems like this. Hope you find a easy cool solution.

Hi, sorry to say but this is a good idea haha..
This is actually the ONLY solution !!!

Because if you should have the same water level in my pond, as in my tank.
The water level would have been 20-40cm below ground level !
First of all, it would not look pretty with a so deep pond without water...
Second, it would have been dangerous for kids to fall into the pond if it was so deep..

The pond\fountain will only have 20-30cm deep water level.
And the tank with the nozzles is 60cm high, and will be uinder the ground level..

I have 4 pipes connected to each water tank, (50mm drain pipes) !
And to make sure the water (from earth\heaven) not go over the laminar nozzle output.
I will have a electronic water level indicator, and I will also drill drain holes so the water will disrepair into the earth

I have been thinking out this setup for a very very very long time now..
And the conclusion is that THIS is the only way to do it !!

Hi, here follow some updates

I have painted my pool (water pond) with white Epoxy




Here is the old "test" nozzle I did use, no wonder why this did not work lately !!!!



I dont understand what had happend to that steel I think the metal mesh did react into the water hose-plug !!
Pretty bad result there (just after 3-4 weeks) .


Anyway, I did receive my sponge today:




Mounted it inside my nozzle:





I did put allot of work into my new nozzle today.
With the 90degree bended inlet, and 1,5" thick filter in bottom, straws, and a small pipe to place the fiber optics !!

But the result was actually crappy
I hate when that happened, and I don't understand what the problem is here (again) !
Is it the filter, maybe the long distance from the straws to the output, to much power in water?

I will be away until Sunday, and then I must open my nozzle and try to remove the fiber optic holder..
And maybe add one more filter in my tank !


Btw: the setup is : water intput - Filter - Straws - 2-3" air - output --

Maybe I need air between filter and straws ?

Hi Filip, Ohh no! Thats bad. When i mounted my Fibers first, i loose a lot of quality in thze small nozzle. specially a 90 deg. input is not good for the water flow, because the water must find a way arround the nozzle. Go straught in with the fibers and the problem is gonne.
Or makie a longer nozzle or try to put a mesh inside, same you use in the kitchen, a verry small one after the straws, that helps.

Good Luck

I have made 2 nozzles now :-)
So the next days I will continue to make the 2 last one..

Here follow some pictures:












And here is a Video :




There is no Cutter on the nozzles yet!
But I will try to make one... the problem is how!!!!

Cheers, and thanx for support :-)

Are you using a low pass filter to elimintare pump jitter?

Nozzle_Dreamer wrote:Are you using a low pass filter to elimintare pump jitter?

No !

I have no jitter on the beam..
On the first picture you can se the water is breaking appart, that is only becouse of the heavy wind !

I have NO problem make the beam go 2 meeter high, and 2-3 meeter long
But after 3 meeter distance it will break apart at the end.

New day, and new problems !

Done some testing today:



The water tank and my pool worked out just great..
The only problem is (exactly what Mario warned me about) that the nozzle shake because of the vibration from the pump.
So there can maybe be a problem to have the pump in the same water tank as the nozzle

I need a solution !! and I need it quick !
One solution is to have all 4 pumps in the pool, but it will be ugly, more work, and the most important of all, I need to have the water going OUT of the water tank.. so there must be pumps in the tank !

Damn I so much want to make a call to WET and ask for some tip
haha


Cheers

Hi Filip

First, You did a nice Job, you have some Probelems install it, that is normal. You changed the design. Why is the big thank now same level as the floor? Looks really good, Very good, i like the quality of your stream, Amazing and this without a low pass ..Great! I have more Jitter with a low pass.

Yes, the Pump in the same tank is not good , i tryed it earlier, itwould be so much easer. I have now the source hose for the Nozzle inside the biger hose from the big tank .. very clever! Can you also do this? All you need is a big tube from your big tank to one of your small tanks, thats all. 2 1/2" min.

I Worked now 2 Weeks on a new Master controll board, and now its finished! A lot more futures now.
I also have my tanks ready and started to dig up the Garden, but in 2 weeks i go to my holiday and i think i finish in August.

Hope you can use my solution, and keep on Working.... I like the video ,,

Mairo

Hi Mario !

First of all, I did not change the design .
It maybe seems like it on the picture, but the water level in the big pool is much higher than in the laminar water tank !
The tank is actually 60cm high, but the water is only 30cm ...
Reason is that the nozzle is higher than the water lever (Because of the cutter.....) !

I`m not so sure if I did understand what your tip was ?
In the picture the pump is places in the pool (then it works) ..
But the problem will be when the cutter is activated, all water will then collect in the small tanks.
And because of the lower water level in the nozzle tanks, it will be a problem if the water go to high there !

So the pump MUST pump water from the tanks !!
I not so sure how to do it, I think the ONLY solution is to isolate the pump\nozzle ?

Maybe place the nozzle on some filter, and maybe also place the pump on a filter.
Maybe I can place another PVC pipe around the pump to isolate it ..

hmmz..

Noe i understand ...

You need a 5th pump, and bring the water back in the big tank .. thats the easy way, just make a conteroller, when the water level is high or pump during cuts, make a extra small collect tank for this. Or make a thank next to each nozzle and put the Pump there ...

That is also a good solution.