Ice, snow, and bad news...
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liteglow
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Ice, snow, and bad news...
Here is my pond:
My water level meeter shows me 4 days ago there was 2 LEDs with water.
Today there is only 1 LED indicating water.
If the water level is correct, it shows me that the water is going OUT of my water tank under the ground
My pond is only one huge block with ice !
If the pipes was filled with water (I supposed they was) when the frost was here in winter, they can ALL be broken!
If the pipes is frozen, there is no way to fix it again...
My water level meeter shows me 4 days ago there was 2 LEDs with water.
Today there is only 1 LED indicating water.
If the water level is correct, it shows me that the water is going OUT of my water tank under the ground
My pond is only one huge block with ice !
If the pipes was filled with water (I supposed they was) when the frost was here in winter, they can ALL be broken!
If the pipes is frozen, there is no way to fix it again...
Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...
Ouch!
Keep strong, it may just be frozen and not conducting on your meter properly.
Would it be possible to maybe add a small heater to your fountain during winter. and just have a close loop system to move water around?
Keep strong, it may just be frozen and not conducting on your meter properly.
Would it be possible to maybe add a small heater to your fountain during winter. and just have a close loop system to move water around?
Things- Nozzle Newbie
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Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...
I maybe need to find some solution to this...
An emergency plan maybe haha
No there is not possible to have hot water running 7months in the year.
But I had in my plan to add some anti-freeze into the pond before frost, to bad I did not to that
An emergency plan maybe haha
No there is not possible to have hot water running 7months in the year.
But I had in my plan to add some anti-freeze into the pond before frost, to bad I did not to that
Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...
liteglow,
Your story brings tears to my eyes. What would you do differently in your design to ensure that this did not happen to you again. I hope to learn from your misfortune.
Ira.
Your story brings tears to my eyes. What would you do differently in your design to ensure that this did not happen to you again. I hope to learn from your misfortune.
Ira.
iburton- Nozzle Newbie
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Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...
I dont know what to do actually !
There is only some alternatives I can think of:
1, Make sure there is NO water in the system and seal it (i did, but it was HEAVY rainfall, and water run back into the system)
2, Have anti-freeze in the system. anti-freeze work up to -35 Celsius (-22F)
3, Looped system with warmed up water (That will cost pretty much money)
Another solution is to use a system that dont break during the winter..
I still dont know how bad the situation is.
But I think there must be a miracle if not the pipes is broken, it`s only plastic
There is only some alternatives I can think of:
1, Make sure there is NO water in the system and seal it (i did, but it was HEAVY rainfall, and water run back into the system)
2, Have anti-freeze in the system. anti-freeze work up to -35 Celsius (-22F)
3, Looped system with warmed up water (That will cost pretty much money)
Another solution is to use a system that dont break during the winter..
I still dont know how bad the situation is.
But I think there must be a miracle if not the pipes is broken, it`s only plastic
Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...
Or move somewhere that doesn't have winters
I think antifreeze in the system would be best, but I could see it may be a problem when you run your lighting in the fountain. Unless you just emptied it again at the end of winter.
I think antifreeze in the system would be best, but I could see it may be a problem when you run your lighting in the fountain. Unless you just emptied it again at the end of winter.
Things- Nozzle Newbie
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Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...
Did you have a drainage system built into it? In the system I am designing, I do have a drainage line that I had planned on keeping open all winter to keep excess water from accumulating. Do you think that would be sufficient?
iburton- Nozzle Newbie
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Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...
Are you just planning on having a ball valve to open for the drainage?
Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...
Yes, my thought is to have a ball valve for each area where water may accumulate and to open them wide when winter comes. I am a bit worried about water freezing and plugging the valve, but the winters here in Utah are fairly mild with short bouts of bitter cold followed by bearable cold, rinse and repeat.
iburton- Nozzle Newbie
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Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...
liteglow wrote:Here is my pond:
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My water level meeter shows me 4 days ago there was 2 LEDs with water.
Today there is only 1 LED indicating water.
If the water level is correct, it shows me that the water is going OUT of my water tank under the ground
My pond is only one huge block with ice !
If the pipes was filled with water (I supposed they was) when the frost was here in winter, they can ALL be broken!
If the pipes is frozen, there is no way to fix it again...
wow look it very bad. dirty
nirvana- Nozzle Newbie
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Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...
Yes it was very dirty because there was no grass, only sand.
And the fountain was on the ground level.
Now I have raised my pond 15cm higher from the ground
And I also have pretty green grass in my garden.
But this year the snow comes like a lighting from a blue sky
I have not sealed the pipes, and the pond is open and filled with snow now
And one of my nozzle is under 50cm of snow haha..
And the fountain was on the ground level.
Now I have raised my pond 15cm higher from the ground
And I also have pretty green grass in my garden.
But this year the snow comes like a lighting from a blue sky
I have not sealed the pipes, and the pond is open and filled with snow now
And one of my nozzle is under 50cm of snow haha..
Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...
Maybe use a rubbery flexible hose rather than solid pipe? That pipe is not made for pressure, so will split easily. If you used a rubber hose that is either stretchy so will expand with the ice, or is made to take higher pressures, it should be ok....
Hoarp001- Nozzle Novice
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Re: Ice, snow, and bad news...
Hoarp001 wrote:Maybe use a rubbery flexible hose rather than solid pipe? That pipe is not made for pressure, so will split easily. If you used a rubber hose that is either stretchy so will expand with the ice, or is made to take higher pressures, it should be ok....
Thanx for the advice but I think it`s to late now.
I guess all my pipes under the ground is broken.
The solution is to putt the smaller flex tubes inside the pipes, and use them instead.
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